{"id":12714,"date":"2025-12-12T23:50:51","date_gmt":"2025-12-13T05:50:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/?p=12714"},"modified":"2025-12-12T23:50:51","modified_gmt":"2025-12-13T05:50:51","slug":"the-mystery-music-man","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/the-mystery-music-man\/","title":{"rendered":"The Mystery Music Man"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"boldgrid-section\">\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div class=\"container\">Who is this young man and what is the musical instrument that he is holding?<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"boldgrid-section\">\n<div class=\"container\">\n<div class=\"row\" style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px;\">\n<div class=\"col-lg-12 col-md-12 col-xs-12 col-sm-12\">\n<p class=\"\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h1 class=\"\">The Photo<\/h1>\n<p class=\"\">The original photo is a tin type photo of a young man holding a wind instrument.&nbsp; The photo is 2.5 inches by 4 inches and is not in a paper sleeve.&nbsp; It was referred to as a &#8220;large gem&#8221; and considered a slightly upscale version of the tiny gems, which were really tiny.&nbsp; The size alone dates the photo to 1870 or later.&nbsp; These specific types of photos were most popular from 1872 to 1874.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"col-lg-12 col-md-12 col-xs-12 col-sm-12\">\n<p class=\"\">I am hoping knowing the possible date range of the photo will help identify the young man in the photo.&nbsp; He appears to be in his late teens or twenties.&nbsp; Based on his minimal facial hair, grok estimated his age as 17-22 as during the 1870s most men wore some amount of facial hair.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">Let&#8217;s see what else we can learn from this photo.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"col-lg-12 col-md-12 col-xs-12 col-sm-12\">\n<p class=\"\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"\">Family &amp; Location<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\">Dad had a number of tin type photos.&nbsp; Several of them are unidentified.&nbsp; However, they appear to have been with other photos of the Peelle family.&nbsp; In addition, the young man&#8217;s hair line is similar to that of a number of the men in the Peelle family. Thus, it seems likely that this photo is of someone related to the Peelle family.&nbsp; Given that, it is likely that the photo was taken in Indiana, possibly in Randolph or Wayne counties.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">It is important to note that this type of photo was known to be taken in Richmond, Indiana, which is in Wayne County.&nbsp; It is also known that the Peelle family had family in Richmond.&nbsp; Another location where these types of photos were taken is Indianapolis.&nbsp; The family had ties in Indianapolis, too.&nbsp; However, it was further from where most of the family lived.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"\">Photo Progression<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\">The following shows a progression from the tin type to a black and white photo with more detail and finally with a colorized photo.&nbsp; By doing the black and white and colorized versions many new details of the photo can be seen.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"row\" style=\"padding-top: 50px; padding-bottom: 10px;\">\n<div class=\"col-lg-4 col-md-4 col-sm-4 col-xs-12\">\n<p class=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-12717 size-medium\" style=\"width: 100%;\" src=\"https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-185x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"185\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-185x300.jpg 185w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-632x1024.jpg 632w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-768x1244.jpg 768w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-948x1536.jpg 948w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-250x405.jpg 250w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-550x891.jpg 550w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-800x1296.jpg 800w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-111x180.jpg 111w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-309x500.jpg 309w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044.jpg 978w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 185px) 100vw, 185px\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"\">Original Tin Type<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"col-lg-4 col-md-4 col-sm-4 col-xs-12\">\n<p class=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-12716\" src=\"https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-bw-208x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"230\" height=\"331\" srcset=\"https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-bw-208x300.jpg 208w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-bw-709x1024.jpg 709w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-bw-768x1109.jpg 768w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-bw-250x361.jpg 250w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-bw-550x794.jpg 550w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-bw-800x1155.jpg 800w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-bw-125x180.jpg 125w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-bw-346x500.jpg 346w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-bw.jpg 939w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 230px) 100vw, 230px\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"\">Photo after cropping and being converted to black and white<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"col-lg-4 col-md-4 col-sm-4 col-xs-12\">\n<p class=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-12715 size-full\" style=\"width: 100%;\" src=\"https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-color-by-gemini.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"683\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-color-by-gemini.jpg 683w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-color-by-gemini-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-color-by-gemini-250x375.jpg 250w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-color-by-gemini-550x825.jpg 550w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-color-by-gemini-120x180.jpg 120w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-color-by-gemini-333x500.jpg 333w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 683px) 100vw, 683px\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"\">Photo colorized and enhanced by Google Gemini AI<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"row\" style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 25px;\">\n<div class=\"col-lg-12 col-md-12 col-xs-12 col-sm-12\">\n<h1 class=\"\">The Clothing<\/h1>\n<p class=\"\">Grok referred to his jacket as a &#8220;sack jacket.&#8221;&nbsp; It was clothing typically worn by workers and indicates he was lower-middle-class or below.&nbsp; It is consistent with the time period of the photo type.&nbsp; His jacket, shirt, necktie, hair style, and even his pose are all consistent with the photo being taken in the 1870s.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">A possible braid showing on the cuffs may indicate that he was a part of a firemen&#8217;s brass band or a town band.&nbsp; Although I can&#8217;t see enough detail to know, grok believes that it is the same pattern that various firemen&#8217;s bands had in several states, including Indiana.&nbsp; It is believed to show great similarity to surviving uniforms from Richmond during this era.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"row\" style=\"padding-top: 0px; padding-bottom: 75px;\">\n<div class=\"col-lg-12 col-md-12 col-xs-12 col-sm-12\">\n<h1 class=\"\">The Instrument<\/h1>\n<p class=\"\">The instrument is an over-the-shoulder E\u266d alto saxhorn.&nbsp; The design indicates it is a later version near the time that they started changing the design of the horn.&nbsp; This style was popular up until around 1880, although some were used after that date.&nbsp; This model was made by Isaac Fiske&#8217;s company and sold in Indianapolis.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">It appears that the young man was a member of some type of band.&nbsp; It could have been a town band or a firemen&#8217;s band.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">It was popular for members of bands to have photos taken with their instruments.&nbsp; Often they were in their uniform, but not always.&nbsp; The photo could have been taken in a studio, but it might also have been taken at the county fair or other special event by a traveling photographer.&nbsp; This specific style instrument is common in photos from 1872 to 1877.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"\">Studio Setting<\/h2>\n<p class=\"\">The backdrop was very common in the 1870s.&nbsp; In addition, the stool complete with fringe was a popular prop of that era.&nbsp; The combination of a fringed stool and a similar\/same background image is found in surviving examples, including from traveling photographers in various states, including Indiana.&nbsp; In addition, this specific background has been found in at least eight tintypes from Indiana.&nbsp; Those photographs were taken between 1873 and 1877 with one of the confirmed photographs having been taken in Indianapolis.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_12728\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-12728\" style=\"width: 370px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-12728 \" src=\"https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-age-progression-to-60-by-gemini.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"370\" height=\"555\" srcset=\"https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-age-progression-to-60-by-gemini.jpg 683w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-age-progression-to-60-by-gemini-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-age-progression-to-60-by-gemini-250x375.jpg 250w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-age-progression-to-60-by-gemini-550x825.jpg 550w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-age-progression-to-60-by-gemini-120x180.jpg 120w, https:\/\/itsallinthesynapse.net\/Family_History\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/12\/MC1044-age-progression-to-60-by-gemini-333x500.jpg 333w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 370px) 100vw, 370px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-12728\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Image after colorization and age progression to age 60 via Gemini.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h1 class=\"\">Profile<\/h1>\n<p class=\"\">If we use 1873-1877 as suggested by grok for the date range for this photograph and the likely age given of 17 -22, it implies that this man was born between 1851 and 1860.&nbsp; I like to expand a bit on the suggested year ranges given people in more rural areas didn&#8217;t wear the latest styles or might not have had the &#8220;in&#8221; instruments. Likewise, he might be a bit younger or older than he appears.&nbsp; Thus, I think this man likely was born between 1847 and 1865.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">One of his parents was likely a Peelle, although it is possible that the tie to the family was at his grandparent&#8217;s generation.&nbsp; It seems most likely that he lived in Indiana and possibly in or near Richmond.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">The image shows an age progression of the man to approximately age 60.&nbsp; I included it so that it could be used if photographs of the man when he is older are found.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h1 class=\"\">Further Research<\/h1>\n<p class=\"\">If I do not identify this young man, further research can be done at the Indiana State Library and the Indiana Historical Society.&nbsp; Both institutions have collections of tintypes, including those of bands.&nbsp; This might help identify the location or exact date of the photo.&nbsp; If I get really lucky.&nbsp; I might be able to identify the man through their collections.<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">AI apps:&nbsp; grok, Gemini<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">Prompt: Musical<\/p>\n<p class=\"\">#52ancestors52weeks<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Who is this young man and what is the musical instrument that he is holding? &nbsp; The Photo The original photo is a tin type photo of a young man holding a wind instrument.&nbsp; The photo is 2.5 inches by 4 inches and is not in a paper sleeve.&nbsp; It was referred to as a &#8220;large gem&#8221; and considered a slightly upscale version of the tiny gems, which were really tiny.&nbsp; The size alone dates [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":12717,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[33],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12714","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-peelle"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - 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